NewPipe is a really great app, we should use it more as an example of why FOSS puts users first and proprietary software doesn't

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@sir
I really wish I could switch over completely but it still doesn't have a chronological feed.

@jeffalyanak this is a really bad reason to not use NewPipe

@sir
Well, I only really watch videos from channels that I'm subscribed to and I can't find them in NewPipe.

Right now I use a Greasemonkey script that lets me see see a feed of locally stored subscriptions, but I'd switch to NewPipe in a heartbeat if I could actually find the videos that I want to watch.

@sir
As it is, with NewPipe I'd have to open and check every one of my subscriptions one at a time for new videos with no indication as to which might have new videos, which is a really *good* reason not to use NewPipe.

@sir @jeffalyanak not sure if you're aware of this, but you can go to Settings -> Appearance -> Content of main page and add "What's New" to your tabs, which will contain the newest video from each of your subscriptions roughly in the order you subscribed to them

@aminb
@sir
Yeah, but because this isn't actually chronological I get many, many videos that are years or months old.

The channels that I subscribe to are a mix of those that update frequently and those that don't, so that view doesn't work well for my use.

@jeffalyanak @aminb some day you'll learn that you're better served by prioritizing being in control and not being taken advantage of before the little things. Until then, use whatever you want.

@sir
@aminb
How am I being taken advantage of with my current solution? I am *not* logging into a Google account nor using the YouTube app.

@sir
@aminb
I run YouTube in a Firefox container and rather than logging into Google I use a custom Greasemonkey to take my subscription list and build a chronological list. My subscription list stays on my end.

@jeffalyanak @aminb that sounds miserable compared to NewPipe. But you do your thing

@sir
@aminb
Well, for desktop it works great. It looks and feels very close like YouTube's own subscription page. NewPipe literally won't do that, so I can't use NewPipe for that, miserable or not.

@jeffalyanak @sir i guess you could consider contributing that feature to NewPipe, given that it's Free Software :)

@aminb
@sir
Yeah! I was considering asking whether it was something they would be interested in before I made a pull request, but yeah.

@jeffalyanak @sir i know i'd be interested and appreciative of having that feature 🙂

@aminb
@sir
Well, SkyTube has that feature already. Apparently the NewPipe team has been having issues with implanting it for some time now.

@sir
@aminb
I use NewPipe for casual exploration and watching videos that people link me, it just doesn't work for me for keeping up with my subscriptions without a chronological feed. Why is that so upsetting to you?

@jeffalyanak @aminb I'm not upset, I'm just tired of this conversation.

@sir
@aminb
If I didn't prioritize being in control I'd just use the YouTube app and subscribe to channels through a Google account.

@sir
Sir, could you give me a good reason to switch away from my current solution (which actually solves my problem) to NewPipe (which doesn't)?

You say that the software not working for my use-case is not a good enough reason to not use it? Why would I arbitrarily switch to it and make my experience a lot harder? What benefits would I hope to expect?

@jeffalyanak @sir Did you know, every channel on youtube has an RSS feed you can subscribe to :)

(I don't remember the URL of the back of my head)

@aearil
@sir
Yeah, that's what I leverage for my Greasemonkey script. Unfortunately, I don't have a mobile option that is quite as nice as that. Currently on mobile I just use the raw feed, but it's awkward to click a video and have it open in my browser. Hopefully NewPipe adds chronological timelines soon.

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